{"id":334885,"date":"2026-01-16T13:28:06","date_gmt":"2026-01-16T18:28:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/truthout.org\/?post_type=to4_video_post&#038;p=334885"},"modified":"2026-01-16T13:28:09","modified_gmt":"2026-01-16T18:28:09","slug":"mahmoud-khalil-the-trump-administration-aims-to-make-an-example-out-of-me","status":"publish","type":"to4_video_post","link":"https:\/\/truthout.org\/video\/mahmoud-khalil-the-trump-administration-aims-to-make-an-example-out-of-me\/","title":{"rendered":"Mahmoud Khalil: The Trump Administration Aims to \u201cMake an Example Out of Me\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"truth-post-content-before\" id=\"truth-2878898416\"><div class=\"callout callout inline-callout mb-5 callout--text callout--text\" id=\"truth-304218\" data-callout-id=\"304218\" data-callout-theme=\"text\" data-callout-placement=\"Undefined\" data-callout-title=\"BCB 304218 Support justice-driven, accurate and transparent news...\"><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Support justice-driven, accurate and transparent news \u2014 make a <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/support.truthout.org\/-\/XXQLBDSX\/&amp;utm_source=truthout&amp;utm_medium=bcb&amp;utm_campaign=304218\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">quick donation<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to Truthout today!\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<p>A federal appeals court on Thursday delivered the Trump administration a victory in its efforts to deport Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil, opening the door for his rearrest. Khalil was a graduate student at Columbia University when he was arrested in March and detained for months. He missed the birth of his son, Deen, while in detention. \u201cThe Trump administration is trying everything in its power to come after me, to put the full weight of the government to actually make an example out of me,\u201d Khalil tells <em>Democracy Now!<\/em> \u201cThe U.S. government has not brought a shred of evidence that I broke any laws.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The appeals court did not weigh in on the constitutional merits, instead saying Khalil should have appealed his removal order in immigration court before going to a federal judge. \u201cWhat people need to understand is the immigration courts are not real courts,\u201d says Baher Azmy, a member of Khalil\u2019s legal team. \u201cThey\u2019re part of the executive branch.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">TRANSCRIPT<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><em>This is a rush transcript. 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A federal appeals court has reversed a ruling that freed the Palestinian activist, the Columbia University graduate Mahmoud Khalil from a Louisiana ICE jail in June. Advocates fear the move could pave the way for the Trump administration to rearrest and deport him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mahmoud Khalil was arrested and jailed in March for taking part in campus protests at Columbia University as a graduate student. He was the first noncitizen student targeted and arrested by the Trump administration for pro-Palestine speech, detained for months, first in New Jersey, then in Louisiana, before a federal district judge in New Jersey granted a <em>habeas<\/em> petition in his case, saying his constitutional rights had likely been violated. Now in a split two-to-one decision, the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals has overturned that ruling on jurisdictional grounds, saying Khalil should have first appealed his removal in immigration court.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For more, we\u2019re still joined by Baher Azmy, legal director of the Center for Constitutional Rights, as well as Mahmoud Khalil himself, who\u2019s joining us via Zoom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Welcome back to <em>Democracy Now!<\/em>, Mahmoud. Can you talk about your response to the judge\u2019s decision, and what this means for you and your family, your wife and your baby, Deen, who was born while you were imprisoned in Louisiana?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MAHMOUD KHALIL:<\/strong> I mean, this ruling is absolutely disappointing. This administration, the Trump administration, is trying everything in its power to come after me, to put the full weight of the government to actually make an example out of me. And this means that I will be separated from my U.S. wife and son, who both were born in this country. And just, like, it underscores how this administration is weaponizing the legal system, how fragile due process can be when our rights are treated as conditional rather than guaranteed. And I must be clear: Like, it\u2019s absolutely \u2014 I have an amazing team. You have Baher with you in the studio. We\u2019re going to explore every avenue until we feel vindicated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yet this administration will continue to go to these ideological judges to get rulings in their favor. And basically, as you said, what they want me to do is to wait for an immigration process that\u2019s fully completed \u2014 fully controlled by the Trump administration to get justice from this, from this process, which, as we know, this wouldn\u2019t happen, that this \u201cimmigration judge,\u201d quote-unquote, will not let us develop our case to bring it on appeal. So, imagine that I have to wait to do that. And 10 months now after my detention, the U.S. government has not brought a shred of evidence that I broke any laws, that I spoke anything in support of terrorist organizations, yet they continue to weaponize the legal system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JUAN GONZ\u00c1LEZ:<\/strong> Well, Mahmoud, the secretary of state, Marco Rubio, has claimed that your very presence spreads antisemitism, your very presence in this country. How do you \u2014 how do you respond to this Trump administration narrative that they\u2019ve created about you?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MAHMOUD KHALIL:<\/strong> No, I mean, this is an administration that spreads hate. This is an administration that actually embraces the actual antisemites, that supports the neo-Nazi parties across Europe, to come and claim that my presence here is about antisemitism. It\u2019s not. You know, I\u2019m here to support Palestinian rights, the fundamental rights of the Palestinian people for their self-determination and liberation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And again, we told them we want to see them in court, and that\u2019s what they don\u2019t want to do. They want to take this case into immigration court, which they fully control, so we don\u2019t have to present \u2014 or, they don\u2019t have to present any evidence. And as Judge Young yesterday, in another case in Massachusetts, said, that what happened in this case is essentially an unconstitutional conspiracy between Rubio himself and Noem, the secretary of homeland security, to pick up certain people, to twist the laws and to go after people they don\u2019t like. This is a judge, a Reagan appointee judge, who said that, that they are conspiring to do that, to make an example out of me, so they chill the speech of everyone in this country, regardless of their \u2014 regardless of their status.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:<\/strong> So, you were the first of the students to be arrested. Then there was Mohsen Mahdawi, who\u2019s now a Columbia graduate student. There was R\u00fcmeysa \u00d6zt\u00fcrk, who was a Tufts graduate student \u2014 all released. You have filed a $20 million lawsuit against the Trump administration, claiming you were falsely imprisoned, maliciously prosecuted, deliberately smeared. And in a case, Judge William Young called Mr. Trump an authoritarian and said the administration\u2019s actions targeting noncitizen student protesters violated the First Amendment. That decision only applies to members of two academic organizations in the case. If you can respond to that, Baher? And, Mahmoud, if you can respond to this lawsuit that you have filed against the Trump administration? Start with Mahmoud.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MAHMOUD KHALIL:<\/strong> Absolutely. I mean, we\u2019re seeking accountability for all the injustices that happened against me and against other students. And this administration needs to pay for all these lawless actions that they are committing. So, this is just like one action towards that end. And this is why they are retaliating against me, because I\u2019m also standing up against their actions, and they don\u2019t like that. They want people to just submit to their authoritarian practices and to their lawlessness, which I will not. I will not make that happen. I will continue my advocacy until Palestine is free.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:<\/strong> How do you keep Mahmoud Khalil free, Baher?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>BAHER AZMY:<\/strong> Well, just to reassure everyone, this decision, taking away jurisdiction from the district court, is not \u2014 doesn\u2019t immediately go into effect. So, the order releasing him is still in effect and will be in effect until the appeals process is exhausted. And we have a number of legal options to continue to seek to revise or reverse this split two-to-one decision, which comes over a very persuasive dissent and which is contrary to decisions in other courts of appeals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, ultimately, Judge Young is right. This is an authoritarian action by this government. He also talked about how Rubio and others have a fear of freedom. Imagine being so cowardly and ashamed of the First Amendment that rather take on the speech that you disagree with, you try and imprison those who dissent from U.S. foreign policy. That\u2019s the classic kind of extrajudicial detention or arbitrary detention that\u2019s the hallmark of autocratic regimes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JUAN GONZ\u00c1LEZ:<\/strong> But, Baher, this whole issue of Judge Young\u2019s decision on the free speech rights of noncitizens, the appeals panel claiming that he lacked subject matter jurisdiction, could you explain the logic of that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>BAHER AZMY:<\/strong> Yeah. So, to be clear, the appeals court in \u2014 headquartered in Philadelphia did not take on the illegality of the detention, which basically every court that has reviewed this policy has found unconstitutional. It cited a technical jurisdictional provision of the immigration laws to say that the federal court, which is a constitutional court, cannot hear these claims; it has to be put through the immigration process and the immigration courts. But what people need to understand is the immigration courts are not real courts. They\u2019re part of the executive branch. That\u2019s why we wanted our constitutional claims to be heard in a real court, a real constitutional court. And, you know, that\u2019s where these kind of constitutional claims can be, not in a court that rubber stamps the executive branch\u2019s policies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AMY GOODMAN:<\/strong> Just going to end this segment with New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani posting on social media, quote, \u201cLast year\u2019s arrest of Mahmoud Khalil was more than just a chilling act of political repression, it was an attack on all of our constitutional rights. Now, as the crackdown on pro-Palestinian free speech continues, Mahmoud is being threatened with rearrest. Mahmoud is free \u2014 and must remain free,\u201d the mayor of New York City said. That\u2019s Zohran Mamdani. Your final response, Mahmoud Khalil, as you sit here in New York City now free man?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MAHMOUD KHALIL:<\/strong> You know, I would say, like, this is \u2014 all these attempts are just to really distract us from what\u2019s really happening, which is Israel\u2019s genocide in Gaza and Israel\u2019s action against Palestinians in whole of Palestine, and also to distract from the fact that this administration, just two days ago, sent $3.3 billion to Israel, from our money, from our tax money. 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